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1,300% growth, 900% NRR and the end of token maxing
Anthropic filed its S-1 on 26 October to list on Nasdaq as ANT. Revenue for the six months to 30 June was $16.3B, up from $1.2B a year earlier, growth of 1,300%. Revenue in 2023 was $41M. The filing reports net revenue retention of about 900% as of 30 September: customers who were paying a year ago are now paying roughly nine times as much.
Adam: âHave you ever seen a business grow this fast?â Adir: âNever. The question is, have you seen a business with over a billion dollars of revenue grow this fast? I doubt thereâs been one in history.â
Adam: âMy theory is they grew significantly through getting more cash out of their existing customers, from dabbling in Claude to using it massively and really token maxing. And weâve seen that token maxing is over for most smart companies. People are asking: how do I reduce my spend? How do I divert to cheaper LLMs? How do I use open weight models?â
Adir: âIn the first half of â25 it was a bit over a billion dollars of revenue, and in the first half of â26 it was $16 billion. That sounds amazing until you realise that the net revenue retention of 900% is nine of that 16.â
Adam: âClaudeâs an incredible product. But is it five times as good as OpenAI? Is it a hundred times as good as the OpenAI models? No, we think itâs slightly better. And all the other guys are catching up as well.â
$475B of compute, customers who can walk at will
The S-1 shows at least $475B of future cloud compute commitments, most of them non-cancelable, including about $114.5B with Google and $110B with Amazon. Elon Muskâs SpaceXAI (formerly xAI) is in line for up to $120.5B through 2029, though once the initial periods end in early 2027 either side can cancel on 90 daysâ notice. Around 80% of Anthropicâs revenue is consumption-based, and its largest customers buy on usage with no long-term contracts. Anthropic held $112.4B in cash at 30 June, out of $141.1B raised.
Adam, borrowing a line from Evan Armstrong: âRevenue, meanwhile, is consumption priced and cancellable at will. So this sounds a lot like a bank to me. Theyâre borrowing long and lending short, which is a recipe for a bank run and a recipe for a collapse. Am I being too dramatic?â
Adir: âYou say theyâre non-cancelable, but they are cancelable by the liquidator. These businesses have to not only stay alive, but continue to access funding in order for all your promises and dreams to come true as a supplier.â
Adir: âA hundred billion dollars feels like a lot of money to raise, but it turns out itâs not that much between friends when your business is AI, because you blow more than that in one yearâs worth of compute. This cannot possibly be the end of their aggressive capital raising.â
Adam on what Claude said when he ran the S-1 through it: âThe angle isnât that itâs secretly losing a fortune today. The angle should be: todayâs numbers are a snapshot taken at the most flattering moment. The bill hasnât arrived yet.â Adir: âGood on you, Claude, for throwing your masters under the honesty bus.â
Hollywood, not SaaS: an 85% margin and models that expire in six months
Anthropic doesnât report a gross margin, but cost of revenue of $2.38B against $16.3B of revenue implies about 85% for the first half. Compute for model development sits in R&D, and fees paid to cloud channel partners, up $2.7B year on year, sit in sales and marketing. Models released in the six months to 30 September accounted for more than 80% of third-quarter revenue.
Adir: âBasically in the gross profit, the only thing taken out is the air that people breathe inside the Anthropic office. Itâs basically a useless, pointless number except for the purposes of catching out the lazy investor.â
Adam: âI think of foundation models as being akin to Hollywood, not Silicon Valley SaaS. In Tinseltown, youâre only as good as your next movie. In the LLM game, youâre only as good as your next model.â
Adam: âThe more they scale, the more it costs them in compute to build the best training model. So it feels like the scale benefit here is at best weak and at worst non-existent.â
Adir: âAll of this work and all of this effort to create this amazing software has turned out to just be building a commoditised piece of software that is interchangeable with the five other commoditised pieces of software, and the 500 that are probably not as good but good enough.â
One IPO record in seven years, three in one year
Saudi Aramcoâs $25.6B float in 2019 held the record for the largest IPO for almost seven years. In 2026, SpaceX raised $85.7B on Nasdaq in June, SK Hynix raised $26.5B through a Nasdaq ADR listing in July, and Anthropic could raise $100B or more. Closer to home, AI data centre operator Firmus withdrew its ASX float on 9 October after weak demand.
Adir: âWhen you say the previous record holder held for seven years and then this year thereâs going to be three record IPOs, that possibly tells you itâs bubble time.â
Adam: âAustralia had its test two weeks ago with Firmus, and Australia passed with flying colours.â
Adir: âIan Patrick, the chief investment officer of the Australian Retirement Trust, which is the second largest superannuation fund in Australia, told the AFR conference that AI-related investments accounted for more than 25% of the fundâs portfolio. I think this is the singularly highest risk moment in the AI boom slash bubble, this IPO.â
$2 trillion needs $10B of profit. Whereâs the road?
Reports put the IPO at $100B or more at a valuation of $1.5T to $2T, with listing targeted for the week of 16 November. Anthropic was valued at $965B in its May private round, and at $183B in September 2025. Nvidia has reportedly considered investing as much as $10B in the offering.
Adir: âIâm going to be generous and say Iâll pay 200 times earnings for it. Youâd have to make $10 billion of net profit after tax on a PE of 200 to justify $2 trillion. And whatâs the road to $10 billion of NPAT on this business? There is no obvious road to get there.â
Adam: âAnthropic isnât a luxury brand. People arenât going to pay 30x for what you can get from DeepSeek.â
Adir: âI think this will get away. I think it will be a kicking-the-can-down-the-road moment, because theyâre going to need more money.â
Adir: âWill you lose 90% of your money or more with Alphabet or Microsoft or Nvidia? Very unlikely. But much more likely youâll lose 90% of your money here. If you want to bet on AI, this is not the risk-return curve to bet on.â







